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The Eternal Question?

2008-08-24T19:02:08Z

Thinking back over the years the most significant one for me has been, "What's next?" In fact as I remember that is the one that got me truly involved with practicing magick. The Universe which I suspect includes a strong sense of irony promptly responded with, "Here, try this." Being that I tend to be mission oriented it has kept me occupied for decades. So... what is your eternal question?

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Meetups and Such

2008-08-17T18:49:58Z

Tuesday, the evening of August 22d from 7 to 9 PM, the monthly Witches Meetup will be held at the Fireside Coffee
Lodge, 1223 SE Powell, in Portland, OR. A number of Guild members make this a regular event and I look at it as
an opportunity to touch several bases and find out what is on people's minds. It is also a very good venue to meet
new folks in the metaphysical community. Hope to see a lot of you there!!!

Power Dark and Bright!

George

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For those interested in alchemy

2008-07-18T15:53:01Z

I have a website for those who want to learn alchemy and get initiated into these arts check out this website its called the international
alchemy guild http://www.alchemyguild.org/ its a good website and directs you through training in labratory alchemy and other parts of learning check it out if your interested.

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Anniversary

2008-07-13T05:06:55Z

The Guild will celebrate its first decade of existence this coming May. Not too bad considering that it began with three people doing a ritual to create a support egregore. On a face to face basis there are quite a lot of us now. The majority of the membership lives in Portland, Oregon and there is another group of us in Southern California. For the last few years becoming a member has been accomplished by attending the "Path of the Adept" class (POTA). As the membership is eclectic so far as magickal paths are concerned the class gives us a basis of commonality. The one thing that hasn't changed much since the beginning is that we are still a support group.

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General Semantics

2008-04-08T19:02:58Z

George,

We had a lengthy discussion the other day and touched on this subject. I was wondering if you had those handouts or any other relevant information that might manifest in this forum so that we might learn from it?

Warm Regards,

Ami

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Annual party/campout/conclave

2008-03-28T19:28:56Z

Hello all!

Thank you all for your good and loving energy that was sent out to me...most appreciated. When times are tough the one thing that really makes the difference are good friends. Thank you.

I do have a date for the rescheduling now. We will have our gathering on the first weekend in August...the 3rd, 4th and 5th. We will also be celebrating Jon's birthday and Lammas during the same weekend..multi-tasking and all that.

Same kind of situation...bring chairs, camping stuff, etc...and food to share. Since it is Lammas-time as well, it would be lovely if Saturday nite could be a harvest feast. Please let me know what you can bring so we can build a menu. For Fri nite, please bring snack food to share, and breakfast food to share for Sat and Sunday. Sandwich stuff to share for Sat would be great, unless everyone wants to do their own thing for lunch...can I get a concensus on how you want to handle that?

Finally, do you all want to have a potty? My little ol' bathroom is not much for all those folks, so it would be my preference to do so, and I will be happy to order one if I can get a group consensus that supports that and a pledge of a few $$$ from each of you to defray the cost. Let me know.

Sorry about the sudden postponement...I know what a pain in the ear that must have been for y'all. Looking forward to seeing you in August.

Much love and many blessings,
Belle

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POTA update

2008-03-04T00:25:31Z

The students I'm teaching finally are running into the tougher challenges. They are making no less than 6 sigils each, and two servitors each.

They found my syllabery method to be easier than Spare's Alphabet of desire, but they are doing them... next class is this coming Wednesday, if any guild members want to help out in launching the sigils.

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A New Metaphysical Store In Portland, OR, Essential Elements

2008-02-28T20:02:03Z

One of the Guild's members, Carmella, has opened a metaphysical store in the Hawthorne district of Portland named Essential Elements. It is a house located at 3135 SE Hawthorne and I have posted some pics in the photo section. One of the things the store offers that is different is an in-house tea room so one doesn't have to wait until they are home to test a product. The store also carries original art work, incense, jewelry, and the tools of the trade. The upstairs portion of the house has rooms available for classes, meetings, and ritual. So.. if you are in the mood stop by and check it out.

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Bunburying Across America

2007-09-23T23:22:34Z

As promised, I'm coming to America within the week. Under the truthful but artfully incomplete explanation of "visiting friends", I shall be dropping in at various points across the nation, including the lovely Portland Oregon. I shall be arriving there on Sept 15 and going home from there on the 21st. Somewhere in between I shall be stopping over at Seattle.

I would love to meet some of my friends and colleagues from the Guild and others during my stay. George, what can we arrange? (somewhere to stay, perhaps? Any thoughts? Volunteers?) PM me or email kaitwm625@hotmail.com before Wednesday, when I start off. Thanks a lot.

Kite

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HELP! We Need Topics From Our Readers!

2007-09-20T20:00:24Z

I'm on a LOT of different groups and the month of September has sort of been a "flat spot". Now what I'm requesting this time is for some people to post about their successes and achievements. Actually, I consider this an act of pragmatism, maybe because I consider those bigger motivators than a bunch of complaints and/or criticisms.

I suspect that a lot of us have found a "comfort zone" and now we are laying back and enjoying it. Hey... that's cool from my point of view. Now, would you believe that I wouldn't mind a bit reading about it? Sooo......?

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Have a Great Solstice

2007-06-28T01:57:47Z

Take some time out today and just enjoy. After all you probably deserve it.

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Urgent Message about Conclave

2007-06-28T01:56:41Z

Belle called me this evening and ask me to post that the Conclave this weekend is going to have to be postponed due to a family emergency!

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annual party/ campout/ guild conclave

2007-06-27T00:58:41Z

Belle asked me to post this....sorry I deleted the first one oops.....

Hello one and all!

Just a reminder about the annual party/campout at my place the weekend
of the 30th. I think that I've spoken to most of you already, but
just want to make sure everyone's been invited!

People will start to arrive on Friday the 29th...I will be in a
training most of that week, so please let me know if your arrival is
on Friday so that Kim can meet y'all.

Please bring camping gear to camp for the weekend, camp-out foods to
share as pot lucks for Fri dinner, Sat lunch/dinner, Sun lunch and
Sat/Sun breakfast. We will prepare and feast together...NoNo, I think
that you already know what to bring. I will have iced tea on hand,
(sweet and not sweet.. read...icky) , have the most fabulous H2O coming
outa my faucets, but other beverages are up to you...green is a
definite...! ...not as a beverage, but you know...! Bring layers of
clothing, as you can never tell what season it's going to be upon the
mountain! Bring musical instruments, drums, etc...we will have the
fire pit burning hot, and it really needs some dancers and drummers to
make it happy...one of those kinds of firepits, dontcha know.

Please feel free to bring guests....but please let me know how many
sometime this week if at all possible. CHILDREN ARE WELCOME!!! As a
matter of fact, we will be setting up a special area for the children
to help them find fun in every moment and not drive the adults to
distraction! Actually, for those of you without little ones, the ones
we have are pretty good, so no worries.

Please try to wear black for Saturday, as we mourn the loss of
Steven's youth. I know that most of us will have no trouble with
that! We will have cake and ice cream for the little guy side of him
and who knows what else for the rest of him! He does love presents,
both the little guy and that other one, especially if it involves
meat. Or chocolate. Or nakedness. Ha! Ha! Gotcha there!

Hope to see you all there! If you have questions or need directions,
please call me...

Much love and many blessings!

Belle

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everything

2007-06-07T04:54:24Z

Every thing

one thing all things derivation of the tao;
polarity spinning with the wheel turning and echoing off the prow
of the mind ship done a quit split and break away peeling as a wave
gonna climb that master staircase one more time
before i do it big time when i get me to my grave...

oh HO hi here now reaper, now freind and my soul!
be here now, let us go with me still in control!
For i have business to attend to in my merkaba body
and my inner reptile can handle thinking i'm asleep.

And your freindly hand takes me and presents me to the court
of the singualarity inflated into the many fractal echollations of the
adam kadmon riddle on the walls of the the tree

By your scythe am i taken and delivered by your wings we fly through and
to the inner self as the adam kadmon scalar fractal of this incaranations
genetic code strung up in phase and resonated like a gong a bell lightning
striking the brodmanns brain orchestra wide awake all the sudden

and in my minds eye the contents of the collective psyche spin there in that hyper
infinite maelstrohm of dreamers and their bubbles swarming in circles of the wash
of karma.

But theres MERCY to go to; The true infinite ocean zero curve resonant silence;
and the non still point of the even larger collective trans planetary collective
psyche.

Consciousness node hyper space.
you have always been just a cell phone call away from your buddy,
you needed new software, not new hardware, you silly ape.
lol.

Consciousness like all the forces resonates in its own subdomain feild,
and thus in one whole possible universe, the only points that exist are
the ones that are witnessing and sentient. That means that consciousness
and sentience are feild events; and that in theory, people can be linked
and entangled in dynamic ways through that infonet.

Quantum information, and entanglement; the telecron is on an infinite faster
than light ourney to link all points in its route; every location of sentient
self observation. It is only one particle wave, one feild, but it ends up blipping
at every location since its the size of the universe.

Never mind those, the best way to establish telepathic connection is to
study the suble anatomy and then realize that there are operational states
relative to awareness of the subtle body; ie, theres another whole set of senses
underneath that depth theta waking state. Electricity; neuromuscular electricity.
Consciousness moves most freely between bodies of animals because of their
imitative reflective qualities, like those two grandfather clocks, people with
resonant DNA all resonate with each other. So even us and the dolphins speak
the same adam kadmon language.

You can see the adam kadmon fractal echoed in them very nicely, and it gives
you a sense of what happens when sentience starts to play into overwriting
the whole pattern.

This same fractal equation rings true in dozens of different ways.
The tree of life, for instance, as it might be mapped to the chakras.
The places or states of consciousness between sixth and seventh chakra.
The whole tree can be superimposed in several key ways over the body,
showing that in truth theres a simple fractal geometry that builds us.

That fractal geometry is present in the whole universe, especially quantum
information, which has an even larger vanishing point event horizon for its feild
than gravity does. Quanta a trillion light years away from us know where the
earth and moon are as quantum memory and coentanglement. (if we could figure out how
to decode spin better, we could get photos of the recent past from single
particles showing us large swathes of the universe.)

We live in a universe based on the simplicity of the circle and its orbitals,
a universe of concentric circles built up around things that orbit centers.
Atomic structures, quantum particles, planets, galaxies, the galactic megacluster froth..
all confirm that everything is circling other stuff everywhere we look at different
scales.

Gravity is one echo of those circles, atomic physics is another. So the underlying
pattern to represent both is still a set of rings or doughnuts filled with
information.

The universe is orbits and valence. It is composed entirely of forces where
one thing orbits another. Matter is just energy having a long term quantum
entanglement journey into chaos.

How do we then map those circles? how do we understand how the many things
pulls itself apart from the one tao? How does that singularity "explode"
or "implode" or merely "disintegrate."?

Once upon a time the universe was null and there was a void. out of a single
point of undifferentiated but polarized nothingness, everything sprang
into being, simultaneously, including time. The early universe was hot and dense
and has mostly spent its time since there trying to cool itself off. Matter
has some love and hate relationships with itself, and large suns or even singularities
have a tendency to novae or evaporate.
Where does an evaporated singulariites mass go?
back into the quantum froth; it meets ultimate doom at the hands of a
"so what ?" meter thats composed of a more infinite energy potential of anti
polarizations. One wave just dissolves the other, without mercy.
An evaporated singularities mass ceases to exist; but the net value of the cosmos
stays the same, because that energy is just hyper distributed back into the hyper
quantum froth.

Or, the singularity could in theory transform into exotic phenomenon like
basement universes. They could find a new frequentia to define as space time,
and be popped out of their brane space like a zit.And then boom; a new inflation
event in a subspace domain equal in size to the singularity.

Or, the singularity could be governed and prevailed upon to desolve into
a wormhole; ie quantum froth spatial enhancements to fly in hyper space.

Or?

And what does it take to make a singularity happen, say, for instance, if you
wanted one? Tons and gazillions of amounts of matter? No. Just a lot
of energy in one very small space.

And what does that singularity do for us potentially in a technological sense?

It gives us potentially infinite zero point energy, and, possibly, the ability
to build designer new basement universes.

Energy from just plucking a singularity out of nothing and polarizing it,
and then inflating it internally with an adam kadmon.2.0 fractal.

And basement universes we can design to suit us.

So whats the hold up to acheiving a technological singularity?
Leaving planet earth. Why? Because even testing that kind of technology near
a gravity well could result in a new black hole.

And now to hop to the adam kadmon fractal again;

That fractal was discovered by the ancients and imprinted into Tarot and
the TREE OF LIFE from qaballah. So the best way to understand the fractal
is to study both since they are slightly different systems, and feel
your way through intuitively connecting those systems.

The Hindu concept of the chakras is clearly analogous to the tree as seen
going from but to top of head.

The adam kadmon nagual body might be seen where the tree is about twice as tall
or three times as tall as the person is.

Adam kadmon might be representitive as a box holder image for the idea
of the tree in malkut, or the malkutian tree seems to be well reflected
best by the adam kadmon tree. vesuvius man tree where the tree is superimposed
over the body from head to foot is another way to look at the fractal which has
interesting correspondences to how the body can move.

The adam kadmon fractal; it is the language of our genes, it is the fractal
equation we are composed of. It is several very simple geometric relationships
implemented repeatedly at many different scales.
We are the adam kadmon fractal. But we think that we are our ego selves.

The adam kadmon fractal has some interesting differences when applied to
say for instance, Apes. The Auras of Apes are very interesting to read.
There the fractal is sleeping, and untouched, fully dormant. With the human,
it is as if the fractal was hellbent on exploring its own resonant inner karma
explorations of the many things principle. The fractal is opened and very different
in humans, almost too strongly presenting itself in their mutual tiferet
as the big spinning wheel of their local collective unconscious.

The assemblage point on apes is tiny, theres no telepath node under the occipital
chakra, they would be forced to access their halo directly upward, which
almost seems impossible.

And yet, in the specific behavior of most humans, these organs lie nearly
vestigal and unused, large, powerful psi organs not talked about in the main
set, and, coincidentally enough, simply being nbadly used by the populations
at large.

Few people know of or have heard of the occipital chakras even if they are
into the primary seven. They link the energy body to the visual processing
center of the occipital lobes, so that is where new information from outside
the system need to load from anyways. The telepath node is like a little flower
nub perched pointing downward off of lower occipital chakra.

Using it, one should be very careful to route back up through the halo first
before doing much of anything. The best trip to go on if you find yourself
there is to use the telepath node to self link from the macros perspective;
ie; awaken the self as the macro. This then inflates the adam kadmon nagual
body. (which you may end up deciding to step out of... be careful...)

The adam kadmon nagual body is why mages first learned to do circle casting
and its what you must know when you arrive there. Being in the nagual body
is like having yur experiential self sucked out of your body and projected
against the collective psyche by a flashlight or a laser beam. You feel
completely dissassociated from your physical body and may halucinate hovering over
it. The adam nagual body is veiwed by others who are even muggle as "halo"
events. Its the strongest electrical charge the body can itself bring and hold
in phase. So it can actually end up lookikng like whsipy static eletricity.

When in the adam kadmon nagual body, you must understand that you are attached
to karma like potentially a lightning bolt to zap yourself, and that the forces
of nature wil respond to you because your subliminally now able to project
new quantum patterns onto the physical realm.

So the wiccan ritual is used when the nagual body is won for the purpose
specifically of running the experience of being in the nagual body comfortably.

This is often not understood by some wiccans.

One calls the quarters and casts a circle when one enters the nagual body
because that is the state in which the forces of nature ar actually in attendence.

Theres an interesting paradox about being in a Nagual body in that it is an
echo of the adam kadmon body at some scale relative to the actual body.

While that can be at times giant and enormous at some scales, the experience
is actually a lot like being sucked up and down through several different
scales as angels take their time with walking you around gods neurons.
A person in such a state is actually incredibly vulnerable, and in some
senses is entirely drugged by the shamanic consciousness itself. So it can be very
interesting and difficult if people react subliminally against a tall adam
kadmon presence,
when one is just trying to slip away to get to the force to plug into it
that part can be harder.

What is accessible if one puts all of this together is telepathy and access
to the collective unconscious. Think of me if you'd like as a wannabe telepath,
whos looking for folks. to play with.

My life is about the walk of trying to see if i can get the humans to play
my game with me so that it will demonstrate to them what it is thats my
real point.

Humanity is perched on the precipice of not making or making this next
evolutionary step foreward. If we do, we won't have to worry about energy-
it will be free and infinite. We won't have to worry about housing; we will
be able to build increasingly whatever we imagine. We won't have to worry
about global warming, because we will be reversing the gas balance,
and making our entire globe more ecologically stable.

If we carry whole ecosystems to the stars, then they survive with us
even longer than they woulod have on earth.

But what has to happen for it all to break is enough people have to stop
and see through all the arguing and realize where the center is and
realize how the truth makes the bickering a joke. They have to stop and
each and every single person en masse realize that our civilization has been
operating with errors. And take responsibility to fix it, rather than pretend
the car isn't busted and employing teams of immigrants to pull it around
like horses.

Our civilization got into a wreck. The idea of democracy got derailed by
republicanism and representation became a society of, by, and for the wealthy
elites.
Corporate oligarhy is what we have now, and all corporate oligarchies decay
into fascism. There is no better moment than right now or soon for everybody
to start waking up and realizing that their government exists to keep them stupid
and a slave to rent and playing the game. We are not free; we all MUST WORK.
"The nuclear family" was a con job to split us up as communities. "nuclear
family values" was as bad an idea for society as nuclear power is and was
for energy. Geothermal power has the same yeild potential as nuclear power,
and is cheaper and by far cleaner than any other method. Why don't they use it?

Why don't they open that halo?
why don't they turn on their inner tv?
why do they keep watching movies outside and not bother to create better than
that within?
they are shut down and kept closed in order to be more controllable.

so access to these enormous human potentials is being simply thrown away,
humanity sleeping to the possibility of a mutual society of applied geniuses
rather than twelve cults of the US VS THEM.

A persons halo cannot open if they are against something, because simply put;
you are it. the line of seperation is an illusion provided by the distal and
proximal stimlus. The atheists in the end are not only wrong, they are just victims
of nbeing shut down to the other end of potential human percpetion.

The whole of the soul can itself become a lens or an eye to tap into and to
resonate with quantum information. The subtle body is built to facillitate
this in both humans and dolphins, but not the apes.

By ending all internal dialogue, and transforming true inner silence into
a depth listening ear, the self can learn to tune into the subtle universe
of yesod and tiferet. By use of theta waking state, the mind can build halucinations
equal to an interface; and one walk in tiferet while waking and build dreams
lucidly as one wishes.

The chakras all have different ways of connecting us to energy, and we use
our capacity for resonance with others going off of our chakras. Heart chakra
and third chakra govern how we keep social space, who we let in and who
we keep out and why and how. Like an internal mercy and severity, heart opens
us to positive emotions and social interactions, whereas third chakra contracts
us inward and can potentially make some people prone to violence if expanded
to hyperactivity beyond the development of the other chakras.

Heart chakra builds little tentacles out to people and links with them,
third chakra has a single tentacle it uses to moderate the subtle body.
(and the aka feild.)
Fifth chakra brings usto voice,
sixth chakra to the self thats wanting to be social and communicate,
and seventh chaka is of course transpersonal. The halo is an operational
condition of the seventh chakra, where the seventh chakra opens up and
the whole self swims into the collective psyche and retreives information.
The assemblage point is on theback of the body, and is the tension of the
shoulders in some senses, which phases the body into and out of electrical
and magentic, feild potentials much like the clutch of the energy body,
one uses the assemblage point to cue a change in state, or loads the request
to enter a new state into the energy body via the assemblage point.
Relaxation turns out to be physically necessary to enter theta precisely because
the adam kadmon fractal knows us too well.

So the point of all of that is that there are these different ways that we
share energy via chakras that amount to communication. That communication
level can entrain us into deeper levels of telepathy.

The other point of all of this is that it is because we are such similar
patterns
that we get quantum entanglement and thus our own
sublocal collective unconscious. It is the adam kadmon fractal itself
and property of the holographic universe that makes science more or less
abandon all hope and pushed off back into spirituality.

The i ching had it right 8000 years ago. The universe is very simple.
Its based mostly on a dozen contrentric circlesand the tree of life,
in exploration of yin and yang values for oh so many properties of material
experience. The I ching predicts atomic structures just as well as it predicts
DNA. The many things are all derived from the single singularity, polarized,
and then inflated inwardly.

Past the event horizon of the outside of the universe, one turns and looks
back at a singularity. One speck of spacetime against the back drop of the hypercosm
hyperquantum froth. Our whole universe on the outside is so small, thered
be no way to even find it again without a wormhole attached to it.
On the outside of everything, there is only one single point. It connects
all points and it links every time and space to every other.
it connects all paradigms, it connects all ideas, it vanquishes all
\muddied thinking and it sprints foreward on the bellcurve of human
thoughtforms making their way on the evolutionary path.

That singularity that is our universe is only one thing. And we are all it.

The outer universe is the illusion.

malkut is the material universe; and its is just the oubliette at the bottom
of the tree.

the true reality is within us, spatially inward, and through us, into and past
the sentinels of consciousness node hyperspace.
There, in a larger single infinite dream, the many civilizations of the universe
might be sending their signals which we might hope to recieve.

We don't need to spend a thousand years more to arrive at the technological
singularity. All that is required is for human civilization to tranjsform
into an intellectually supportive instead of anti intellectual society.
The answers on how to build the warp drive are freely available old school news
on the orison internet. The question is, should they allow us that before we
give up violence and pack psychology and corporatocracy?If you were an alien
civilization, would you give us infinite power?
It is time to quit looking outside of ourselves and to start to look within.
The technological singularity is here in potential if we can acheive a social
hundredth monkey event. Otherwise, the sum total of all gurus will simply throw
all of their pearls at swine, and all will be for naught.

The biggest question confronting the modern human is;
are you ready and willing to evolve yourself psychologically,(?)
so that you can take back democracy and then create a new utopic union
of applied world peace initiatives?
Are you ready to engadge in deep self transformation, in order to transform
your civilization?

Are you ready to wake up and realize that you have an aura? That you have a subtle
body? That this body extends into hyperspace?
That you are connected to everything else?

If so, then we need to get together and transmit to the rest
of the humans again as loudly as possible the trick, the evolutionary principles,
the process of evolution.

the possible info revolution comes when people decide they do want to know
that they are magickal, and that god lies dormant within them.

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Where Do YOU Focus Your Magick?

2007-06-07T04:52:41Z

I have been prompted to ask this question after reading about people's "headspace & timing" for some years now. Do you do the majority of your work to increase your personal "luck" or do you have some specific goals you wish to enhance? I tend to be "mission oriented" so for a couple of decades most of the magick I did was intended to enhance the performance of my work place. Personal benefits came in the form of "spin offs", but benefits they certainly were. Now, as much as I value the individualistic stance (something that I suspect is unavoidable anyway as we are not made with cookie cutters.) I value the ability of the individual to become a part of a smoothly operating and highly functionable team equally and maybe a bit more.

Sooo.....are you up to attempting to answer this query?

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psychology101

2007-06-06T10:01:26Z

PSYCHOLOGY General
1.Psychology is the study of the human mind. Most specifically the psyche, most generally All of human behavior.
2. The human Brain is composed of between 40 and 70 different organs, depending upon
how you define differences. These are called brodmanns brain areas. Each brain area
is responsible for specific types of brain processes and mental functions.
3. The human mind has four main operational conditions, they are beta brainwave states, alpha brainwave states, delta brainwave states, and theta brainwave states. Each of these might be further subdivided into waking or sleeping states of consciousness.
4. Beta brainwave states are those in which the dominant area of the brain is the frontal lobes. Alpha brainwave states are those in which the dominant area of the brain is the Mammalian brain or Occipital lobes, and Delta brainwaves states are those where the brain is dominated by the Reptilian Brain or brain stem. Theta brain wave states are
a second waking condition in which the body is healed, or, in which the normal flow of
dominance from top of brain to bottom of brain is reversed, and the bottom of the brain
loads information into the top, which is then experienced as dreams.
5. We have instincts which compel us to seek out gratification of our needs. All behavior is motivated by a conscious or unconscious belief that said behavior will get some need met.
6. Psychology involves first an instinct, which compels a thought process, and then a planning or strategizing session in which the individual uses their maps of reality and belief systems as well as learned knowledge and social conditioning to arrive at an end
product of doing something to get what you want. Schema are maps of reality which we
use as tools to meet our needs .Social Conditioning and personal experience and learning
play vital roles in helping the mind to think up tactics to meet needs.
7. Criminal behavior is behavior which that person believes will get their needs met. Punishment was well demonstrated to have little or no effect on learning curve. What is required for a person to change their behavior is a functional tactic that does work to get their needs met.
8. Groupthink is a social phenomenon of psychology where a group uses false
consensus process to end up behaving stupidly as a group. Groupthink occurs when
people cave into social pressures, where propaganda replaces knowledge or facts, and where group identity is created out of participation in group delusions, lies, codependency, or criminality. Groupthink is how a mob drifts to the lowest common denominator, and why a mob is potentially vicious, evil, and sociopathic. Group
authority ameliorates and dissolves personal conscience, and by having their emotions
manipulated and their social identity threatened, people give up their own better judgment and accept the judgment of the most psychopathic member of the group.
9. Pack Psychology is the psychology exhibited primarily by mammals in small groups
in which 3 primary roles are assumed by social participants. The roles are Alpha- the leader, Beta- the followers, and Delta- the orbiters. In human society that translates in a super-simplified way into bullies, cliques, and nerds.
10. Problem solving psychology must contend against groupthink and pack psychology in the arena of opinion. Problem solving psychology is emotionally neutral and uses the mind and logic to look at all aspects of a problem and try to come up with a viable problem solving process. Problem solving psychology is the worst enemy of both
Rightist and Leftist Dogmatists. True problem solving psychology comes from the place of the radical middle. It takes in all sides and all viewpoints, and it gives each its fair dues
And attention in creating a problem solving process that works from the big picture down through into the nano details.

Psychology;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology
http://psychology.about.com/
http://www.psychology.org/
http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1E1-psychlgy.html
http://www.socialpsychology.org/

Brodmanns brain areas and etc;
http://www.umich.edu/~cogneuro/jpg/Brodmann.html
http://spot.colorado.edu/~dubin/talks/brodmann/brodmann.html
http://www.whale.to/b/brain.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodmann_area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_in_the_human_brain
http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/capsules/outil_jaune05.html
http://www.csuchico.edu/~pmccaff/syllabi/CMSD%20320/362unit4.html
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/qa2.html

brainwaves;
http://www.brainwaves.com/brain.html
http://pages.prodigy.net/unohu/brainwaves.htm
http://brain.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm
http://www.crossroadsinstitute.org/eeg.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwaves

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Need Another Centralized Meeting Place

2007-05-28T18:52:34Z

Spring has sprung and as usual has brought us a bunch of changes. Right up there in the apex positions is a need for another
centralized meeting place in the Portland, Oregon area. Two of our members have provided for this over the last two years, one
year at each location and I am extremely grateful. The owner of the last location decided to tear down the present building, it began
its existance as a nunnery, and replace it with an office building. SIGH!

Anyway, while we do have a servitor out conducting a search that will be in conjunction with some consensus reality work. It has been
my experience that the Universe helps those who help themselves and don't sit around hoping for the best. Also, when one portal
begins to ease shut another flies open. We are receiving several inquiries concerning the POTA I class and it would be nice to have
a place to conduct it on a regular basis not to mention POTA II and some Guild Initiations. Talk about growing pains!

Comments are invited.

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meditation

2007-05-24T11:45:54Z

http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B2deea999-20a1-48cc-801f-34fdfa604172%5D
http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics/thread/bd6e2744-41ea-48e7-b9d9-f96d1aa00690
http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics/thread/5dc9390d-0fc1-4192-9ab0-d33a42e7510e
http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics/thread/c372dd1e-8a33-44a3-a5dd-0b634223dd78
http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics/thread/91336cd3-24e0-4727-b758-93b1f279608d
http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics/thread/10a71fcd-efc5-4428-a43c-78fcc518e43e
http://tribes.tribe.net/psychonautics/thread/a805ad8b-4548-4a0f-9ca2-38bdaa1dcf7e

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tick tock tao

2007-05-24T11:44:45Z

Get eight freinds together and try it.
If you practice only a few hours, you should start having at the very
least an awesome choral group. And if you go on for a while,
you should start making transitions into Theta states of consciousness.

This is called Glossolia.
It is a reconstruction based on an intrinsic understanding of several
key principles about how mind works. I won't try to explain why it works,
I will just tell you that it does.
(after you have tried it and want to understand it, come on back to me
once you have the experience that will make my explanation make sense to you.)

The internal dialogue structure of Theta States of consciousness is harmonic-
musical. We know this as people often experience "hearing a chorus of Angels"
when a Theta condition is induced.

Drumbeats at the same cycles per second as a given state are powerful cues
that can help us to enter altered states of consciousness.

The following is a methodology for entering Theta states of consciousness, designed
by yours truly.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:28 PM 3 out of 31

Trybl Vortx Part Two, The Prequal.

Drummers Parlance.

In theory, the Trybl Vortx system by itself should work fine.
It is an absolute
description of the variables involved, and a total solution.
In practice,
singing like angels is too hard.
The requisite skill, or understanding involved
is too far removed from human experience.

Thus, we have "Drummers Parlance", Both a pre-quel game, and a description of a
very specific form of communication.
Drummer's parlance is simply the communication verbally of a pattern or
patterns, which can then receive tonal or musical counterparts. Drummers'
parlance in the strictest sense is non-tonal, or rhythm only. Sounds are
representations of various durations of time.

The duration of time covered by a "A" is a .1 amount of time. The duration of a
"Ta" is.2 duration of time. The duration of a "Ka, or a "Te" is also a .2
representation of time. Then a "Toom" is a .3 duration of time. These
definitions can be stretched, but the general idea is there.

Then, those kinds of syllables are arranged to count time in pattern. The
pattern repeats, and that is what gives us a "Full measure" of time.

For instance:

Tecka Tecka Toom Toom Te Ka Toom Ta La Toom Teck Teck Ta Ta

Tecka Toooma Tecka Ta Te Ka Ta Tooma la Teck Toom Teck la

Ta Tecka Ta Toom Ta Ta Ta La Tecka Tecka Ta Tooma Ta Ta Ta

Toooma Toooma Ta Ta Ta Toom Ta Toom Ta La La Ta Tooma Ta La

Elata Ta Lata Eee La Ta Ee Lata Tooma Ala La Ee La Tecka Tecka

Tee Tooma Tee Tooma Ta Ta Tecka Tooma Elata Tao Teck Toom Tecka Tao

Ticka Ticka Tock Tao Ticka Tooma Tock Toom

Tick Tock Tao Tao Ticka Tao Tecka

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:30 PM 4 out of 31
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This gets us to 29. I am going to go with the idea that you get my point
before
I count to a thousand.
The point is that we have now created 100 "phrases" if we count that high,
which
are one or two beats long. The Lengths of the various beats is variable and
is
the most interesting part of all of this. If we say that it all just goes
from 1
to ten, then Tao-Aum is 13 counts. Rhythms we feel comfortable with are
at their
simplest 3 beats long. The heartbeat is Ta-silence-Doom. More complex rhythms
go
up into the 20 beat range but not much higher. Any set pattern should repeat

within 20 beats or the human mind won't be able to comprehend it.
Tecka Tecka Toom Toom is six beats, and in the time of the second exploration,
4,1,4,1,5,5 counts long. 20 counts. A pattern at 23 beats;
Tecka Tecka Toom Toom Elati Tati Toom Toom Tecka Tecka Elati Tati Toom.

With a count of 4,1,4,1,5,5,2,1,2,2,2,2,5,5,4,1,4,1,1,2,2,5 for sub- total of
10, 10,11,10,10,10. And a total of 61 counts.

So the point of all of this is to get a mental picture of what is possible for
different kinds of rhythm patterns.
The Idea of drummers parlance is that I should be able to say to a drummer,
"Give me: Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao" And have them go, "Give
that to me three times." And I Go "Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao
Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati
Toom Tao Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao" And Then They are doing
it
with me, and it sounds good, because we are both in the same pattern.
Then, I can play my flute inside of the pattern of the drummer, and the next
thing you know, we sound like a rocking duet.

That's only part one of Drummers parlance and it's the most interesting half.
The other half is even more annoying and more like an exercise but it really
works.
This other half is basically as simple as "counting time."

123123123123123123123123123123123
123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123
12341234123412341234123412341234
1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,
12345, 12345,12345,
12,1234,123,123,1234,
123,12,123,1234, 12,
And so forth on and on into infinity.

By learning Drummers Parlance, we are learning to think in the kinds of patterns
that we have to use later on in Tick Tock Tao.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:31 PM 5 out of 31

The rest becomes a question of what you are trying to express.
The answer is of
course that you are trying to express an emotion,
which is really just a state
of consciousness.
Realizing this, we are looking at 4 states of consciousness,
and realizing that certain tempos,
beats, and tones describe each of these
states. Thus, music can be created specifically to harmonize the individual
into
a given state of consciousness.
(But this hasn't been done as far as I know yet, only frauds have tried it,
people who had no real understanding of states of consciousness, or not
enough
skill.)

Where do we go from here? We start a pattern, and we show how any such
pattern
evolves musically and harmonically,
how slow beats have within them the seeds of
faster beats and how fast beats are tied to slower beats.
Using the eight roles,
any given pattern can become a total song.

The entire process is in a sense best accomplished in a large group of people.
The 4 track is a great tool, but we don't have 20 earphones
and 20 plug-ins for
those earphones for 20 people to participate in recording.
So we get the people
singing first, and then once we are really rocking we make our first sample
recording. Then, if we want to, we take that to the 4 track and add in whatever
we want to. Since we don't have 20 people, the best thing to do is to go with as
many as we can get.
The main thing is that everybody has to do his or her homework.
They have to get
a real sense of what we are doing away from it all.
They have to actually read
the form. Otherwise it's just playing around.
The other thing is we have to have
an understanding that we approach things from a very serious level at first.
Sure it leads into fun, but without focus it disintegrates into noise.
I'd love to be able to hang out for 60 years and play with everybody, but I
can't afford to. What has to happen instead is people have to take responsibly
and seriously the information I am giving them for 30 minutes at a time a few
times a week, and then in a week or two it will be the Angelic Choir.
And then we can release the forms and the structure as just a tool that got us
to the place of being able to play at a more sophisticated level.

Thank you for your time and energy. May peace love and light win within us all.
PrometheusPAN

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:32 PM 6 out of 31

>TRYBL VORTX (Part One)
Tick Tock Tao
Is a specific form for improvisational singing with a group of people.
Using
this structure, We move from simple to complex, with each individual
adding
another level of complexity. By attuning very specifically to the pattern
as it
all ready exists, we evolve the pattern without loosing each other.
Thus we can
be together as long as we use the structure.

The Idea here is that we have modeled the timing and harmonics relationships
that naturally exist with each other, and come up with "parts" or "roles"
that
reflect these relationships. Then, we model the natural evolutionary path
of a
pattern, as it moves from complexity to simplicity, and we find that in
essence,
these roles have an order to them in terms of who follows who and what
follows
what.

In reality Tick Tock Tao is thus nothing new. It is simply a way of
organizing
things that are well understood all ready. When we look at Tribal
cultures all
over the world (or what is left of them after being effected by the global
hive...) We find that they have very specific formats for social
interaction in
different states of consciousness. Whereas we, the global hive,
have protocols
structure or format for existing in only one state of consciousness.

The words "Tick Tock Tao" are culled from inside of a trance space.
The entire
sequence was at one time used as a trance cue to enter a specific state of
consciousness. The meaning of the words is as follows. Tick refers to time.
Visualize a clock. Music is all about time and timing relationships.
Rhythm is
in a sense just various ways of counting time.
Tock has a double meaning, including Talk. Talking, communicating.
Tick Tock Tao
is a way of learning to communicate musically, rather than a way of creating
entertainment. We try to treat music from the very different perspective of the
shaman. We have two hemispheres in our brain, and one side is verbal while the
other is musical. The fact of our attunement to pitch and the ability of our
voices to sing indicates that at one point in time in human history, we sang to
each other as a form of communication
I have taken this presupposition one step further, and have tried to understand
how music can be used as a genuine shamans tool for facilitating altered states
of consciousness. Specifically, in Theta states of consciousness, Those states
associated with spiritual experience and perception of subtle levels of reality,
we can expect the human animal to have communicated musically, rather than
phonetically. The reason is simple and is about personal experience.
In Deep Theta states, the energy of the electrical impulses in the brain comes
into phase. Millions of signals that in Beta states of consciousness are just
going off in their own way in their own time and their own direction all
suddenly come together "in phase" or in harmony. The hum that is experienced is
audible to the ear, as the electrical output of the brain no longer scatters
itself in patterns of interference but amplifies itself in patterns of sustained
harmony.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:33 PM 7 out of 31

Tao refers to the idea that we are indeed changing our state of consciousness
through the use of this exercise. Specifically, we are moving from the yang
waking state to the yin waking state. Thus, the Tao of consciousness is
spinning.

The entire poem:
"Tick Talk Tao" said the Druid to the Drow,
"Be here now and keep your vow to remember.
Do you remember, before you were born?
Leaping through the barley and dancing in the corn?"

"Tick Tock Tao" Said the Faery in the Tree
To the Cave monk sentinel of the cave monk Key
"It's the birds and the bees and the omens I see
That opens the portal of perception to me.

(The poem is an instruction for the ego wall to disintegrate allowing the memory
of pre-mortal existence to come into consciousness.)

Drummers Parlance
Tick, Tock, Ti, Ta, Tia, Ticka, Tocka, Toom, Tooma, are all sounds that are used
in verbal communications of drummers' patterns. This is called "Drummers
Parlance" and is a reality model that was presented to me by a master drummer.
The drumming in the community in which I was operating vastly improved as he
introduced the idea to us.

The Essential Idea
The idea is simple. We can communicate the drum patterns verbally and
phonetically. If we can't do that, we shouldn't be drumming. (At least according
to him.)
The reason is that verbal and phonetic communication proves that understanding
exists about pattern. Otherwise there isn't necessarily and in fact true
understanding. Most drum circles are very chaotic and a-synchronized to the
trained ear.

Instructions
In Tick Tock Tao, there are eight roles. The roles are organized into "Alpha"
and "Beta." Which means "Leader" and "follower." (To some degree. As you will
see, the relationship between Alpha and Beta oftentimes gives the Beta more
freedom and more responsibility too.) The role types are Aummer, Drummer,
Singer, and Whisperer.
These roles represent the natural evolution of pattern. We go from tone, to
rhythm, to song, and out away from order into chaos. Thus, the Aummers start,
and are given time to warm up, then the Drummers Start, and are given time to
warm up, then the singers start, and are given time to warm up, and then the
whisperers start. Nobody is really waiting for them, at least not until level
two.
The Whisperers have a special role. They perform slowly the evolutionary path
of all three other types of roles. When they finish, if the groove is still
going, the Aummers become Whisperers. They get to drum, and then sing, adding
their own parts to the more
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prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:35 PM 8 out of 31

complex pattern. Once the Aummers have been singing for a while, The drummers
should feel free to sing also.
In this way, the pattern evolves into complexity.
On the other hand, especially while we are learning how to do Tick Tock Tao,
what will often happen is that the pattern will start to break apart. The
Whisperers are the pattern police. If the pattern starts to fly apart, their job
is to make sure that it flies apart completly, blows itself open wide, and thus,
the energy is released.
Even really rocking grooves must eventually come to an end, and it is the
whisperers job to raise the energy out into chaos and celebration. That way a
new groove can start.

I have written role cards to make this very easy. Each person receives a role
card. (If there are more than eight people, buddy up with the person next to
you, unless that person is a singer, in which case, play drummers.)

Tick Tock Tao in the most formal sense does things the hard way by going from
toning to rhythm. It may be easier to start out with a simple pattern of some
kind.

Alpha Aummer
Everything begins with you. You breathe deep and hold a base tone.
For three full breaths, The Beta Aummer matches you. The Beta Aummer Tones the
same tone exactly, and covers you while you breathe. Then The Beta Aummer picks
a new tone, and the two of you take turns. When the drumming starts, you will
begin oscillating between the first tone and the second tone, for the duration
of a full measure. For instance, the drummer will say
"Ticka Ticka tocka teck toom tock
doon" The drummer will do this over and over, and you will tone for the duration
of that pattern a single tone and then another single tone, back and forth. As
things evolve, you can bring in more single tones for the full measure of that
pattern. Eventually, once the singers are really going, you can chop the pattern
into smaller chunks and tone for the duration of those.
Your part may be boring for you, but remember, you are helping everyone else
keep time.
In level two of the game, you will pass your card on and receive a new card, and
a new role. Maintain your old role until you fully understand your new role.
Then switch roles.
Remember to listen to the tone the Beta Aummer gives you, and try to take turns
breathing and toning with them. (Take your breathe on a given beat.)

Beta Aummer.
You will listen to the alpha aummer, and support them by mimicking what they do
exactly at first. However, you will soon begin to take turns breathing, and as
you explore that single first tone that the song is based on, you will choose
personally a second new tone that is 5 or seven or nine or some number that works
well distant from the first tone in terms of whole notes. (Thus forming a sort
of master structure of high note and low note between the two of you.)
You should probably consider range here as the most important factor, the alpha
aummer is going to pick a tone that is comfortable for their voice. You are going
to match that tone exactly, or find a resonance with it an octave below or above.
When you change over to a new tone, you want to be in a place that is comfortable
for your voice.
In the first level of the game, i am sorry to say that your role may be somewhat
dull for you, as you will simply take turns going back and forth with the alpha aummer,
one of you breathing deeply in while the other Aumms.
However, be assured that you are holding the root of the experience together and
that you give the structure the stability it needs. Everybody is listening to the two
of you to keep time by.

Alpha Drummer.
You will pick the primary beat structure for the song. You will chop the two tones
each into several peices, listening to both the alpha and beta aummers. To do this
it may help to closely reveiw the preveiw material for the exercise regarding beat
structures. The two Aummers are going to create a whole phrase going back and forth
between them;
"AUMMMMMMMMMMM, aummmmmmmmmmmmmm"
your response, for instance, might be;
"teka teka ta ta, teka teka tooma"
You want to keep it pretty doable and not very complicated, a sort of slower beat, so that
the beta Aummer can add in a faster version of what you are doing with more syllables.

Beta Drummer.
You will listen to the alpha aummer, and notice that the beat is kind of slow. You may be
pciked for this job because you are found to be really good at drumming. This is
a key role and one thats easy to make a mess of, so it is important to be on it.
You have on the other hand one of the funner roles. You get to chop the longer beat
into several more beats, in the above example,

the aummers are doing a
"AUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, aummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
alpha drummer response, for instance, might be;
"teka teka ta ta, teka teka tooma"
your response might be;
"teketititeka tati tati tekati tekatiti toomata"

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:39 PM 10 out of 31

Alpha Singer
You listen to the Alpha Drummer, whose pattern is slower than the beta drummer.
You listen to the tones created by the Aummers. You Mimic the Alpha drummer
until you are sure you have the pattern. Then, you begin to add tones. Your
first tone should be the same as the alpha Aummers, and your last tone should be
the same as the beta Aummer. Next, you fill in that rhythm with tones. You
create a song that becomes the master tonal pattern. If level two is achieved,
your choices become the
Underlying pattern that everyone else follows in the creation of song.
Remember that you are listening to two elements and blending them. You are
listening to the rhythm first, to pick it up, and then to the tones the Aummers
are using, so that it all stays in harmony and key.
Synthesizing these two levels is the hardest job in Tick Tock Tao and one that
it can't work without. If you end up feeling overwhelmed by the task,
Switch roles with somebody else.
The difficulty of this job is made easier in that your song is with the slow
beat, not the fast one. This is very key to your success. Pay attention only to
the Alpha Drummer,
Not the Beta Drummer.

Beta Singer
You listen to the Alpha Singer. They will be singing a slow song. You mimic
their song until you are certain that you have it. You will notice that they are
in beat with the alpha drummer and in tone with the Aummers. Put your attention
next on the Beta Drummer, who is your pal. They are doing a beat that is faster
than the Alpha Drummer. Separating yourself now psychologically from the alphas,
follow the same pattern you have but bring more beats into it and evolve it so
that it is in time with the faster tempo.
This skill is all about taking the singing pattern and adding "flams" and
"perks' to it. If the long pattern is going "Teck Tooma" while the fast pattern
is going "Elata Ladoonta"
Then you are simply adding two syllables. Maybe its "TaTaTa Tooma
Tecka Tooma" for the fast pattern. Now you are essentially multiplying two by
three, three syllables for each of the main two.
Each Of the Alpha singers tones becomes the base note in a chord.
You are filling in the rest of the notes to form a whole chord.

Whisperers
As a Whisperer you mimic the Aummers. This is your chief job, but of all the
jobs, your job changes the most. If the pattern makes it to a full on groove,
with the beta singer completely in for a while, you go ahead and begin to evolve
along the path. Spending time now slowly with each of the other roles, you mimick
each of the others in turn until you arrive back at your own space after the beta singer.
this re-enforces the assorted roles, you act as a sort of back up singer that
helps hold the groove together. Your job over all is actually the role of the
mechanic, if somethings a little off, your job is to attempt to fix it. But if its
unfixable, your job is to scrap it for a new start.
Other than that, you also get the fun job of adding interest. Animal noises,
poetic babble, (actual language engades the verbal mind and should be totally avoided
for the entire exercise) and other such things are the spices you can throw in for
emphasis and variety.
The Alpha whisperer should focus on the alpha roles and the beta whisperer should focus on
the beta roles.

------------------------

This all applies to telepathy rather directly, as the art of MIMICKRY that you have to employ,
of listening to the group, of not letting your ego interere, but rather,
giving over to the true center, these are all the same skills you need for telepathy.

Further, if you attain theta this way, in a social environment, two things will happen.
1. You will be able to hear the angelic choir
2. You will have limited telepathy with the people you are doing it with.

Good luck.
If ANYBODY actually takes me seriously and does it, you could have profound
results in only the next few hours.

I have for myself eight cards, on which I have the eight roles written down.

Thats a great way to go, as then you can switch roles without even talking about it.

DJ43
4/20/2001 11:40 AM 12 out of 31

I take you quite seriously, and I am going to have to print these posts out so that I have them
permanently.
However, it will be days before I can attempt to do the actual process, not a few hours, sorry.
Thank you for so much detail.
One question, just so I am clear, I need to be sure to gather seven people together,
or may it be a number less than eight including myself?
Respectfully,
Denise

Prometheuspan
4/20/2001 9:34 PM 13 out of 31

There are eight roles in the game as described, I think about four is the bare
essential absolute minimum. There is no real maximum,
but you will have to work out organizing it yourself.

You can easilly have two or three people fill each role.
Group them together of course, and make sure they follow each other.

Best of luck!!

And thank you so very much for getting to it at all!!

The real take off for this area will be the results you achieve.
two more weeks for the area and counting...

iammeinabody
4/21/2001 3:30 PM 14 out of 31

Thanks for the info. It clarified some experiances and gives me something to work on.
I'm having a great time trying to keep up on all this.
Now I just need to expand time so to include practice. K

prometheuspan
4/21/2001 3:52 PM 15 out of 31

yes, but does anybody have any questions?

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learning to fly

2007-05-24T11:43:55Z

ote #24 from pan prometheus to HALOS AND AURAS:

>
>We have had some very useful notes and observations on the subjects of
>Halos and Auras. I want to bring a focus to my own thinking on this
>topic, one I have come fresh to.
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oh good, i was wondering whod start.
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>
>
>I have been studying theology since 1965, both in Vancouver and in a
>German University. It now surprises me to state that nobody has ever
>mentioned the subject of "Halos" in all those lectures, and in all the
>theses and dissertations. I now wonder why.
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Its not a mainstream concept,it lost traction for a few centuries there.
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>I thought of the subject of "Halos" as a matter of ancient history.
>Also as matter of esoteric art work.
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yes, it is those things, but it is also as modern as the people you know
who've
got the glow.
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>
>
>
>I've always known the word "Halo" - there is even a halo over a house
>in an ad by a local real estate person whose first name is "Faith".
----
vanity halos in advertising seems like a poor taste rip off to me.
----
>
>
>
>But I never thought there were actual little white circles over
>people's heads in real life.
-----
well, there are, tho they are immensely more complicated as an anatomical
feature than a simple
white circle.
----
>
>
>
>I am coming to understand that halos represent something special about
>a person.
----
Specifically, that person is open to spirit enough that they aren;t just
themselves in a body.
They are CONNECTED. They are "plugged in" to the "force."
----

Not only about Jesus and Mary, and in some instances the
>Disciples. What is represented is a special quality of the person,
>which some other people may actually see as a light surrounding the
>body of the person, or perhaps just the head.
----
depending on how big and how much activity of the halo in question, and how
well observers can perceive subtle reality.
----
>
>
>
>There is energy, or a genius, or love, emanating from some people. A
>Halo is a way of acknowledging that.
---
love is a good word, because it is the love relationship between that person
and
spirit which forms the halo. Genius is a good word because once the Halo is
open,
that person is incessantly "inspired" with potentially whatever information
the mind
of god wants to impart to them.
----
>
>
>
>And everyone connected to that person may not see anything special
>about the person. Only a honoured few may see the "eminence" from the
>person.
----
That really depends on the people and how open THEY are to subtle reality.
Most people in our society can't see subtle reality AT ALL. But then again,
a very strong
Halo event might be enough to be seen even by those who are normally blind
to that
level of reality.
----

It may take many forms. And so I think "Aura" is a good
>connection.
----
The Halo is one part of the Aura.
---

It may appear to some who have an unusual gift or vision,
>as an aura. It may be white it colour, but it can be many other
>colours as well. It may surround the head only, or the whole body.
>It may take many shapes.
----
generally, its 3-5 inches above the head and between 8 and 20 inches in
diameter.
----

>There may be a connection here with the traditions of native people.
>We can probably learn a world of knowledge and insight from them.
----
errr.
You know its funny i just got into an argument over that. You see, some
people claim
that Halos originate with sun worship. This is false. Halos originate with
judiaic mysticism,
and artists drawing circles around peoples heads were not always drawing
halos.

I am a highly eclectic world religions studier, and i can tell you its
wonderful to find
crossovers and assorted proofs that some native culture was doing something
first.
However, Halos are indigenous to Judaic mysticism, don't let anybody tell
you different.

What the traditions of native people help with is the addition of Chakras,
so that we
can understand that the Halo is an operational condition of seventh chakra.

The rest of the most useful information comes from esoteric Judaism.

peace and light
prometheuspan

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Into the distance, a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction holding me fast, how
Can I escape this irresistible grasp?
Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I
Ice is forming on the tips of my wings
Unheeded warnings, I thought I thought of everything
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A soul in tension that's learning to fly
Condition grounded but determined to try
Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I
Above the planet on a wing and a prayer,
My grubby halo, a vapour trail in the empty air,
Across the clouds I see my shadow fly
Out of the corner of my watering eye
A dream unthreatened by the morning light
Could blow this soul right through the roof of the night
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>From: STEVE HELMREICH <STEVE.HELMREICH@ecunet.org>

>
>Note #35 from STEVE HELMREICH to HALOS AND AURAS:
>
>
>Ann,
>
>Your thoughts echo mine. I've never seen an aura, that I'm aware of.
----
thats an important distinction. The aura of most people is subliminal to them.
So you have to learn to percieve the aura before you can perceive a halo.
unless the incident is so intense that it overpowers the brain filtering mechanisms.
(which i don't doubt could happen with somebody like "christ," but most people have halo
events about a few dozen times a day and never know that they opened and shut in one picosecond.) You see auras all the time, and, your aura opens all the time. But you aren't able to
be awake enough to notice it.The hard thing to do is to strech it open for real long periods, like
hours at a time. Then, if you can take your time to fly up the whole tree, you can buzz zoom and buzz all the way up to keter and if you can make it that far, through the labyrinth of divine security
inc, then you can chat with god.
the halo is the actual physical effect of a person talking to the whole universe;
awoken LOCALLY.
-----
---------

I was intrigued by the connection between auras and halos, something I'd never thought of before.
----
a person cannot think about something intellectually if they have no symbols to use to
juggle the symbols that represent it.The largest hump is to learn to think in terms of the anatomy
existing, and then tuning in; there you are; you are it.
The tuning in is the hard part because mechanistically from science that means you have to obtain
a waking theta condition.
-----

I've mentioned it to several people around here, including one who is pretty far out on the New Age thing.
-----
The new age thing; a mob conversation between mob and gurus and con artists with a few dozen real gurus, a few thousand real con artists, and a few million or billion fluff bunnies.
That stuff has to get sorted. Half of it is the worst sort of tripe.
the tiny fraction of it thats useful has to be integrated with other stuff in order to work.
I have a love hate relationship with the "new age movement."
its got a bell curve as far and wide as the best and the worst of religion.
-----

She said she'd never seen an aura, and she said she had a friend who was a pastor in a denomination where it was kind of expected that you would see auras, and _she_ had never seen one.
-------
let me tell you what its like. The you you think you are is three parts of a 58 part system.
three parts of that system is the ego; everything you think is the whole thing.
All you can report to me as, right now, all you can see inside yourself or remember about,
is the three parts that are now talking "talking self" in the hawain.
The rest of the parts are all chatting amongst themselves about you, and holding you nestled
in an illusion equal to the myth of the matrix science calls
"the distal and proximal stimulus"
(somebody look that up as a search term, i'm exhausted by all these yahoo searches.)
Now i posted a partial map of that system with the aura body main organs highlighted for you.
So whats going on actually is that you have a halo, it opens several times a day, but you aren't able
to notice it or hold it open. The halo in one sense is just the physical effect of all the brains electricity "in phase" (look that up n yahoo or google it etc.)
That extra energy potential of brain electricity inflates the adam kadmon fractal; the sort of
gods fingerprint on the human animal. That then can set off or hold open any one of three primary
angelic sub chakras; the lower occipital light body chakra, the seventh chakra, or the assemblage point. The assemblage point is also where the finger of god most touched us, and is where the adam kadmon fractal lies most dormant.
What happens and you don't have th energy to hold it open is a lightning bolt
that descends down the tree from keter and taps you in seventh chakra.
Holding it open can be like holding open a hole on top of you thats dumping subtle energy on top of
you. That energy is potentially highly organizable by god, but, you still have to configure it,
and you have to do that by getting your brodman brain areas to START the SUBLIMINAL
CONVERSATION with your "Self"; the holo universe; you as the echoed adam kadmon fractal.
----------
-------
>
>So I'm interested in the experience of people who do see them. Does it take any special training,
-----
Not necessarilly. The halo is open literally by the operation of karma and will sort of rolling together
and tumbling. What its resonating with at two poles is tiferet and your "Spirit".
So anybody can see a halo, it depends on what kind of halo events we are tallking about,
and, you actually see halos all the time, but your mind disregards the information.
did you know the subconscious mind receives 50 million bits per second and that the 58 parts only
deliver 50 bits per second to the frontal lobes?
The subconscious filters EVERYTHING.
-----
----

or spiritual preparation? If so, what?
----
you have to operate within your energy body to struggle to awaken to an
operational waking theta condition, operate to open the energy body to programming,
bring your brain electricity into phase, ignite the adam kadmon fractal internally,
and then ignite the adam kadmon in yesod, and then pilot the adam kadmon fractal as the merkaba
body up the tree of life, and work out an education with god, so that you can fly back down
the tree knowing the fractal equation of the adam kadmon fractal; and thus able to scry with the
riddle key into the goblin riddle and thus able to utilize the occipital chakra telepath node to link
to the halo, ignite it, and then fly your sixth chakra into seventh chakra, and then hang out,
hovering overyourself in the nagual body of inhabitation of the adam kadmon fractal.
Then, there you are in a body with "orrison" (go ahead and look that one up on yahoo.)
which is really an esoteric way of saying you have a cell phone with an "ANGELTECH"
insignia on it.
--------------

>
>I was out walking with a friend early in the morning, and the sunlight was behind us, casting a shadow on the wet grass in front of us. He pointed out a slightly brighter "ring" around our shadows that is some result of light reflection or refraction. He called it the "glory" and said that it was the origin of the idea of halos -- maybe auras too.
-----
interesting, and relevant, since light is stretched, and since telecrons follow photons or electrons.
but not very well explained. I don't know where to start. let me think on that.
------
>
>Steve Helmreich
>Las Cruces, NM
>
>In note #34 to HALOS AND AURAS, ANN HAFFTEN wrote:
> >
> >I read your stuff. I found it interesting. I didn't really have anything
> > to add.

-----
okay, well, imagine for a second my head.
and,

------

I'm interested in people's personal experiences, so I hope
> > people will contribute.
-----
i have experienced a lot of aural activity, a lot of chakra activity, a lot of
assemblage point activity, a lot of occipital chakra activity, and,
hallucinated that i was flying around in the tree of life, talking to...
well, god god, god and the afterlife.
-------

That's all I've got to say.
-----
Thanks for saying something and at least giving me a ping to know i am not alone or, worse,
making people angry at what they don't want or are not prepared to see.

blessed be
bb
ppan

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Shift Happens - Extrapolations!

2007-03-28T22:56:05Z

One of my fellow Guild members sent this to me this past weekend for which I thank him. I have been posting it to the various groups/lists that I am on including my blog here on Tribe. It is mostly straight information rather than a "rant" and some of the feedback I have recieved to date on it indicates that it has given some people pause to consider how well the "institutions" we have set in place over the last 50 years are working for us. I suspect that it illustrates a couple of things (among others) one being quanity has a quality of its own and the other can be described as Robert Heinlein's TINSTAFL (There is no such thing as a free lunch).

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/shifthappens

The SINGULARITY might be closer than YOU suspect!

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Quantum wizards

2007-02-23T06:15:02Z

Please come and check out my new tribe. It is for deep discusion of spiritualist beliefs withought the confines of religion.

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Sigil Construction

2007-02-21T19:33:04Z

I was reading a thread on sigil construction a bit ago and the thought popped into my head, "Why not devise a generic sigil?" The one that came to mind was the "Lorenz Butterfly'. Maybe this was prompted by viewing the merging of galaxies NGC 2207 and IC 2163 which was pic #9 from the Hubble telescope's 10 best.

Anyway, I went to Google and found a presentation tilte "Lorenz Butterfly". It has a screen where one can click and create the strange attractor. I held the SOI in mind and did the 2d click and found myself drawn into the pattern. To launch the sigil I hit clear. Heh, heh, heh, the cybernetics model in action! I believe the next time I do it I will create a mantra for the SOI ahead of time.

Sooo...anyone else care to give it a try.

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Charisma - The Road to Empowerment

2007-02-19T18:56:56Z

The ancient Greeks called charisma the "divine gift" and thought one had to be born with it. Well, some natural attributes can certainly help such as regular looks and tone of voice, but a great deal of it is attitude and that can be learned. In fact courses on leadership and public speaking are focused on elements of it. For the aspiring Adept I believe that this is an area that should receive a lot of attention.

Sooo...One could begin with the SOI (Statement of Intent) "It is my Will to become Charismatic!"

Drawing on potential one enters into the practice stage with the intent of this attitude to become "without effort". The following is a checklist of some of the elements of charisma. One can approach some of them one at a time and others in combination.

1. Unusual Calmness - Learning that "This too will pass away."

2. Confidence - Knowing what works for you

3. Assertiveness - Projecting your Will

4. Dominance - Controlling given situations

5. Authenticity - Lead by example

6. Focus - Bring your abilities to bear on a given point

7. Speaking Skills - Take some public speaking classes and practice the techniques

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Fun Links?

2006-11-11T20:38:39Z

I've been posting to a web site lately that is based out of England. While it began with a foundation in ceremonial magick it has expanded its interests quite a bit in the last few months. It also has an active chat room that has proven to be entertaining. The idea for my latest blog, "The Ant God and the Eschaton", was born there. <grins>

http://www.withinthepentacle.com

Soo....if any of you readers have links you deem fun or worthwhile please post them to this thread.

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Guild Conclave Pics

2006-10-04T02:55:49Z

I added some of the pics I took of the Guild's conclave in July 2006 up on Mt Hood

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Egregores & the Genius Loci

2006-09-06T09:01:51Z

This topic probably will need some googlemancy as an aid to commenting on it. An egregore is sort of a group astral gestalt
usually governed by its basic statements of intent. The Genius loci translates to "the spirit of the place" and can be included
in the formation of an egregore, particularly if the place is regional in nature. From my point of view creating and maintaining
this type of structure is one of the forms that can be considered "A Great Act of the Art".

Sooo.....opinions please.

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Astromagick

2006-07-27T05:10:34Z

I've already posted this all around tribe.com, but thought I'd post this here for the sake of those who haven't seen it yet. Or is it for the sake of my own self-aggrandizing ego? Not sure myself. I'm confused. www.astrology.chaosmagic.com

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New Project

2006-07-13T05:12:53Z

Since many of the guild members are having an inordinate amount of bad results lately, George suggested a new project.

Stage 1> An octarine recon servitor to divine the problem thoroughly

Stage 2> A fix-it spell of some variety, based on the data gleaned from the recon.

Stage 3> repeat process until results are changed adequately and satisfactorially.

Stage 1 happens at my place, Tuesday the 11th, 6 PM

Any Portland based guild member may join in the work.

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Update/George and upcoming Conclave

2006-07-03T02:50:23Z

Just spoke with George...he sounds much better than he did a few days ago. Did not care for his procedure yesterday! He is expecting to remain encamped at OHSU 'til the end of the week so that they can get his meds regulated, but expects to be home this weekend, where perhaps he can get some rest! (Hospital staff bugging him at 3:30am and such!)

He mentioned the conclaive coming up in July at my house...this event is very important to George. Hope all will attend. Please let me know if you're interested in attending. The location is in Mt. Hood, OR, and we WILL create a wonderful event! The event will run from Friday night until Sun afternoon; please bring your tent/camping gear. Our meals will be pot-luck; everyone will bring food to build meals and it is bring your own libation as well. This is a family event, children will be welcome, and we will have activities to keep them occupied during our ritual time. We will do magick, dance, drum, play together, and perhaps my sister will agree to do a little fire dancing for us all...so please let me know as soon as you can...we may need a port-a-potty this year! Ha! Ha! Hope that some of you folks in the South can perhaps make it up this way, as well.

Much love and many blessings!

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Initiation Announcement

2006-07-03T02:08:43Z

Hello Fellow Guild Members,

On Saturday, July 1, 2006 common era, we initiated two
new members into the Guild. The pattern and
participants were as follows:

New Initiates : David Junkman and Heather Shaw

Initiators:

Spyder for David
Ryan for Heather

Guide: Paul S.

Circle casting : Carmella

East : Jeff

South : Jon

West : Paul

North : Duane

Guild Elder : George

Additional participants : All guild members who were
at the conclave at Belle of Evergreen's site.

The Conclave proved to be a very postive energy space
for the initiation of Silvernight's 5th and 6th
students who passed into full guild membership.

Power flows, and power grows.

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Any one going to the Magickal Winter Weekend? 1st weekend of feb.

2006-05-10T13:24:30Z

Hello all ~ Check out the info (if you haven't yet) @ www.magickalwinterweekend.org ... the entire weekend is $40 and they also have day passes. they have many rituals, events, and vendors. Saturday night is a big masquerade. My sis and I splurged and got a room for that night. If any one want to chip in for a space let me know... Its a good place to get ready for the dance. I'm also having some protective eye pieces of art in the gallery.... Looks so fun! Hopefully I'll see some of you all there :) xo ~M

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trying again

2006-05-09T23:57:40Z

i really want to to be a part of this group becauce my higherself tell me so.
i have already created a link with this egeregore because of my influence with choas magick. just becuase your a democrate doesnt mean you have to be active in its politcal influence. you just want to be a part of it and vote for this. thats how i feel about the sorcerers guild. i think it sucks that i have to go to portald and go to class to be a part of the guild. i have lots to offer. i may not bre adept and my definition of adept is someone who can create miracles at will,lucid dream at will,astral project at will, be 100 percent accurate at telepath and empathy etc.... i have experience i have done miracles. i may not be in portalnd but i something to offer. any way ..... this is my last request to try to be a part of this formaly. just hope for the sorcerers guild to be fair.

blacksand

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George

2006-05-06T17:54:26Z

Just to let you all know, George is experiencing some health issues right now. Tonight Shadowluz and friends will be raising power and sending healing energy to George at around 8pm tonight.

Please join us at this time wherever you are to send healing energy to our Elder.

We love you so much, George!!!

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New art stuff from David Aronson/The Alchemical Wedding

2006-04-30T22:34:41Z

Visionary artist David Aronson of the Alchemical Wedding, http://www.alchemicalwedding.com, has begun three new ventures. The first is an online shop where t-shirts, cards, posters and calendars featuring David's art can be purchased. The Alchemical Wedding Shop is located at http://www.cafepress.com/alchemicalart The other two are blogs; a sketch blog, updated daily, entitled The Snake That Ate The Moon, http://www.alchemicalwedding.com/drawings/sketchblog.htm and a blog documenting the best dark, surreal, visionary and lowbrow art on the web entitled The Crucible:Art and Magick, http://cruciblemagick.blogspot.com/

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POTA II - Leadership & Group Dynamics?

2006-04-01T20:55:38Z

The POTA is mostly focused on magickal techniques and
personal insight. I have been speculating on whether a series of seminars that focused on leadership and group dynamics
would be of interest. Many of the hands-on members of the
Guild have demonstrated skills in these areas. Having a
written course that interested people could participate in might be found to be quite useful.

Opinions please.

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